Recuperar el pelo

Nizoral, Revivogen, Capilatis, etc.
By toool
#72242
Hola a todos.
-Aplicandome unicamente un champoo de este tipo 2 veces a la semana me hara algun efecto?, o solamente tiene efecto como complemento del minoxidil y el finasteride.
-Me frenará la caida y favorecera el crecimento?.
-En españa cual es al mejor marca?.
-Tendre shedding?
-es conveniente antes de utilizarlo acudir al dermatologo?.

muchsimas gracias de antemano y siento preguntaros tantas cuestiones.
un saludo a todos¡¡¡¡
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By zoologico
#72243
Yo creo que por sí sólo no llegue a detener la caída, pero ojo que sí que tiene propiedades de engrosamiento.
Mira este estudio del champú nizoral que te dejo -keto 2%-
Las mejores marcas son fungarest y ketoisdin, pero cinfa creo que es igual.

Mira este estudio que es muy bueno.

salu2

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By Nico
#72247
Hola como estas !!

Puede ser que a la larga te ayude ya que es un antiandrogeno suave, pero la verdad si tienes Alopecia Androgenetica me ayudaria con otra cosa mas. O sea a largo plazo puede que notes cambios favorables pero sin dudas es mejor como complemento de alguno de los otros dos.
En España tenes las marcas como Fungarest y ketoisdin que son muy buenas.
Puede que tengas algo de shedding , no es tan comun , pero de todas maneras si llegas a tener es bien suave.
La verdad que es conveniente que vayas al dermatologo para que te vea y te diagnostique a vos , en cuanto al champo lo podes usar , pero obviamente no mas de dos veces a la semana.

Saludos !!
Última edición por Nico el Mar Feb 12, 2008 1:40 pm, editado 1 vez en total.

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By Olivia
#72249
Hola Tool, Bienvendo al foro! :)
toool escribió: -Aplicandome unicamente un champoo de este tipo 2 veces a la semana me hara algun efecto?, o solamente tiene efecto como complemento del minoxidil y el finasteride.
-Me frenará la caida y favorecera el crecimento?.

El shampoo con Ketoconazol, no podés aplicártelo más de dos veces por semana, ya que podría ser muy fuerte. Solo se usa tres veces por semana, en casos severos de DS.
Este shampoo es un antiandrógeno suave, tiene efectos similares a los del minoxidil, pero en menor medida. Si lo llegaras a usar como único tratamiento, dependiendo cual sea tu problema de caída de cabello, los resultados podrían ser efectivos.
Por eso es un complemento ideal para usarlo en casos de AGA.
Acá te dejo varios estudios (en Inglés) donde muestra su efectividad para tratar casos de AGA.
It can reasonably be concluded that the clinical efficacy of ketoconazole shampoo in the treatment of AGA is primarily a function of DHT pathway disruption rather than an anti-inflammatory effect. In rat studies ketoconazole caused 5-R inhibition [28]. Furthermore, in humans ketoconazole has also been shown to inhibit the binding of 5-R to sex hormone globulins [29]. These clinical studies suggest that ketoconazole like finasteride may inhibit the production of DHT. Unlike finasteride ketoconazole has been shown to bind to human AR [30]. Thus, the effect of ketoconazole on the DHT pathway may be two-fold: inhibition of DHT and/or inhibition of DHT binding to AR. Either or both of these properties would result in reduced incidence of DHT binding to AR and inhibiting the pathway that leads to the miniaturizing of hair follicles.
March 04, 2001 - American Academy of Dermatology Meeting - Washington DC - Scientists working for McNeil, makers of Nizoral anti-dandruff shampoo, presented the findings of a study done on 1% Nizoral shampoo which has good news for hair loss sufferers. It has long been known that 2% prescription Nizoral has beneficial effects on Androgenic Alopecia (MPB). It however has been unclear whether the same benefits can be obtained by using the non-prescription 1% version.
In the study presented (see below), one hundred male volunteers with mild to moderate dandruff and somewhat oily scalp, were using, in a double-blind fashion, either a 1% Nizoral shampoo or a 1% zinc pyrithione shampoo, 2-3 times a week for 6 months.
Analysis of the different parameters set up in the study shows that the hair diameter gradually increased with Nizoral use (+8.46%) over a 6 month period, whereas the diameter showed a trend to decrease with zinc pyrithione use over the same period (-2.28%). The sebum excretion rate was reduced with Nizoral (-6.54%) while it increased with zinc pyrithione (+8.2%) over the same period of time. The number of hair shed over a 24-hour period was reduced by 16.46% with Nizoral and 6.02% with zinc pyrithione after 6 months. Finally, the percentage hairs in anagen phase increased by 6.4% and 8.4% respectively during the study time.

The results are similar to a previous study done on 2% prescription strength Nizoral where it was shown that use of 2% Nizoral yielded a 7% average increase in hair shaft diameter similar to what was achieved by the control group using 2% Minoxidil and a non-medicated shampoo.

So for any hair loss sufferer, this research clearly indicates that using 1% or 2% Nizoral 2-3 times per week, will have positive effects on hair growth as well as controlling dandruff. It is still unclear at this time whether it's the anti-fungal properties or the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole (active ingredient in Nizoral) thats responsible for the hair thickening effects, however because of the decrease in sebum rates as well, it is the authors opinion that the results are due to the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole.
California College of Podiatric Medicine, 371 Columbus Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94133, USA.

Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) binding to androgen receptors (AR) in hair follicles is commonly accepted as the first step leading to the miniaturizing of follicles associated with androgenetic alopecia (AGA). Testosterone is converted to DHT by the enzyme 5alpha-reductase. Finasateride a 5alpha-reducase inhibitor blocks the production of DHT and is currently used to treat AGA. The inhibition is not complete but a reduction of DHT systemically and in the scalp is accomplished. Ketoconazole has been clinically shown to be effective in the treatment of AGA. In this paper, evidence is presented to support the hypothesis that ketoconazole 2% shampoo has a local disruption of the DHT pathway. It is proposed that using ketoconazole 2% shampoo as an adjunct to finasteride treatment could lead to a more complete inhibition of DHT and thus better treat AGA.

PMID: 14729013 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
March 04, 2001 - American Academy of Dermatology Meeting - Washington DC - Scientists working for McNeil, makers of Nizoral anti-dandruff shampoo, presented the findings of a study done on 1% Nizoral shampoo which has good news for hair loss sufferers. It has long been known that 2% prescription Nizoral has beneficial effects on Androgenic Alopecia (MPB). It however has been unclear whether the same benefits can be obtained by using the non-prescription 1% version.
In the study presented (see below), one hundred male volunteers with mild to moderate dandruff and somewhat oily scalp, were using, in a double-blind fashion, either a 1% Nizoral shampoo or a 1% zinc pyrithione shampoo, 2-3 times a week for 6 months.
Analysis of the different parameters set up in the study shows that the hair diameter gradually increased with Nizoral use (+8.46%) over a 6 month period, whereas the diameter showed a trend to decrease with zinc pyrithione use over the same period (-2.28%). The sebum excretion rate was reduced with Nizoral (-6.54%) while it increased with zinc pyrithione (+8.2%) over the same period of time. The number of hair shed over a 24-hour period was reduced by 16.46% with Nizoral and 6.02% with zinc pyrithione after 6 months. Finally, the percentage hairs in anagen phase increased by 6.4% and 8.4% respectively during the study time.

The results are similar to a previous study done on 2% prescription strength Nizoral where it was shown that use of 2% Nizoral yielded a 7% average increase in hair shaft diameter similar to what was achieved by the control group using 2% Minoxidil and a non-medicated shampoo.

So for any hair loss sufferer, this research clearly indicates that using 1% or 2% Nizoral 2-3 times per week, will have positive effects on hair growth as well as controlling dandruff. It is still unclear at this time whether it's the anti-fungal properties or the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole (active ingredient in Nizoral) thats responsible for the hair thickening effects, however because of the decrease in sebum rates as well, it is the authors opinion that the results are due to the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole.
toool escribió:-En españa cual es al mejor marca?.
Zoologico te respondió muy bien a tu pregunta, ;)
toool escribió:-Tendre shedding?
El shampoo con keto puede llegar a producirte el efecto del shedding, es una caida bastante suave que puede durar más o menos un mes, depende de cada persona.
toool escribió:-es conveniente antes de utilizarlo acudir al dermatologo?.
No es necesario. Es de venta libre y lo podés usar sin consulta médica, pero si tenés alguna duda, consultá con un dermátologo primero.


Saludos!

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By Doraymon88
#72463
el champú con keto ,¿cómo hay que aplicarlo con la cabeza mojada o con la cabeza seca?, saludos

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By Nico
#72465
Hola como estas !!

Como cualquier champo, te lo lavas como los demas champos, nada mas que hay que dejarlo aplicado 5/6 minutos y despues lavarte.

Saludos !!

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By toool
#72927
Hola a todos. si la utilizacion del keto al 2% produjese un efecto shedding, esa caida se recuperaria dejandolo de utilizar?. y si se sigue utilizando, tambien se recuperaria mas adelante?.
muchas gracias a todos por ser tan atentos...

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By Nico
#72934
Hola como estas !!

Asi es , la caida del pelos por el efecto del shedding la vas a recuperar si o si , no te preocupes por eso. No se si ya la tuviste o no pero tampoco es lo mas normal, los pelos que caen por el shedding , son pelos que de todas maneras sino se caen por esto , se caerian naturalmente , con la diferencia que esto lo hace mas a rapido y en menos tiempo, pero no te preocupes que lo vas a recuperar ese pelo.

Saludos !!

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