Recupera el pelo
Nizoral, Revivogen, Capilatis, etc.
Por jhc  -  Cinturón Amarillo  - 50 Mensajes
#347865
A mi me ocurrio con el Nizoral 2% la verdad me produjó mas seborrea y comezón y caida de cabello y lo suspendí. utilicé el Medicasp 1% y las costras de grasa desaparecieron y la caida de cabello se aminoró.
Por Kalyo  -  Cinturón Blanco  - 5 Mensajes
#349534
Hola yo estoy en ese lapso de tiempo usando el keto y también veo mas caída y siento mucha menos densidad. Lo que no me queda claro de los que pasaron por esto es si después se corrige y se empiezan a ver los benéficos o mejor suspenderlo ahora antes de perder mas cabello? Uso también h&s aloe vera que me va pésimo, por la noche ya tengo el cabello grasoso.

Gracias!

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Por Arthurmax  -  Cinturón Rojo  - 1382 Mensajes
#352014
Yo tambien use al 2 % y meprodujo mas caida, demasiada, lo use a diaeio como por 22 dias por in brote de ds, no creo que se caiga tanto por la ds y tan rapido fuè en un lapso como de 15 dias. Deberian informar al respecto que el ketoconazol produce caida no shedding.

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Por chubaka  -  Cinturón Amarillo  - 70 Mensajes
#356827
Nico escribió:Hola como estas !!!
fall escribió:tengo una duda, ya no noto caspa ni grasitud, tengo que seguir usandolo al ketoconazol? gracias
tounge escribió:el ketoconazol no creo que regenere el pelo, por tanto yo creo que deberiamos decir claramente que el keto hace que se caiga mas el pelo y punto, lo que no entiendo es porque lo reomendais tanto para tratar la alopecia cuando todos los sintomas que tiene son justamente los contrarios.
Claro que lo puedes seguir usando, el champo con keto ademas de ser antifungico y antiseborreico es un antiandrogeno suave, o sea que actua de una manera similar al minoxidil 2%, logicamente siempre seguir usandolo dos veces por semana.

Aca tenés diferentes estudios que demuestran su efectividad para tratar la AGA.
Nico, hace mas de tres meses q estoy con ketoconazol al 2*/* pero cada tres dias, tal vez sea mucho ya q no tengo ds ni ninguna enfermedad de descamacion , tengo pensado bajarlo solo a dos dias, la pregunta es, el pelo lo lavo dos veces al dia antes de cada aplicacion de minox, puedo las dos veces usar keto?, ya q yo me lavo y lo dejo actuar por 5 minutos y recien ahi lo enjuago, gracias!!!
Manuel escribió:
It can reasonably be concluded that the clinical efficacy of ketoconazole shampoo in the treatment of AGA is primarily a function of DHT pathway disruption rather than an anti-inflammatory effect. In rat studies ketoconazole caused 5-R inhibition [28]. Furthermore, in humans ketoconazole has also been shown to inhibit the binding of 5-R to sex hormone globulins [29]. These clinical studies suggest that ketoconazole like finasteride may inhibit the production of DHT. Unlike finasteride ketoconazole has been shown to bind to human AR [30]. Thus, the effect of ketoconazole on the DHT pathway may be two-fold: inhibition of DHT and/or inhibition of DHT binding to AR. Either or both of these properties would result in reduced incidence of DHT binding to AR and inhibiting the pathway that leads to the miniaturizing of hair follicles.
March 04, 2001 - American Academy of Dermatology Meeting - Washington DC - Scientists working for McNeil, makers of Nizoral anti-dandruff shampoo, presented the findings of a study done on 1% Nizoral shampoo which has good news for hair loss sufferers. It has long been known that 2% prescription Nizoral has beneficial effects on Androgenic Alopecia (MPB). It however has been unclear whether the same benefits can be obtained by using the non-prescription 1% version.
In the study presented (see below), one hundred male volunteers with mild to moderate dandruff and somewhat oily scalp, were using, in a double-blind fashion, either a 1% Nizoral shampoo or a 1% zinc pyrithione shampoo, 2-3 times a week for 6 months.
Analysis of the different parameters set up in the study shows that the hair diameter gradually increased with Nizoral use (+8.46%) over a 6 month period, whereas the diameter showed a trend to decrease with zinc pyrithione use over the same period (-2.28%). The sebum excretion rate was reduced with Nizoral (-6.54%) while it increased with zinc pyrithione (+8.2%) over the same period of time. The number of hair shed over a 24-hour period was reduced by 16.46% with Nizoral and 6.02% with zinc pyrithione after 6 months. Finally, the percentage hairs in anagen phase increased by 6.4% and 8.4% respectively during the study time.

The results are similar to a previous study done on 2% prescription strength Nizoral where it was shown that use of 2% Nizoral yielded a 7% average increase in hair shaft diameter similar to what was achieved by the control group using 2% Minoxidil and a non-medicated shampoo.

So for any hair loss sufferer, this research clearly indicates that using 1% or 2% Nizoral 2-3 times per week, will have positive effects on hair growth as well as controlling dandruff. It is still unclear at this time whether it's the anti-fungal properties or the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole (active ingredient in Nizoral) thats responsible for the hair thickening effects, however because of the decrease in sebum rates as well, it is the authors opinion that the results are due to the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole.
California College of Podiatric Medicine, 371 Columbus Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94133, USA.

Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) binding to androgen receptors (AR) in hair follicles is commonly accepted as the first step leading to the miniaturizing of follicles associated with androgenetic alopecia (AGA). Testosterone is converted to DHT by the enzyme 5alpha-reductase. Finasateride a 5alpha-reducase inhibitor blocks the production of DHT and is currently used to treat AGA. The inhibition is not complete but a reduction of DHT systemically and in the scalp is accomplished. Ketoconazole has been clinically shown to be effective in the treatment of AGA. In this paper, evidence is presented to support the hypothesis that ketoconazole 2% shampoo has a local disruption of the DHT pathway. It is proposed that using ketoconazole 2% shampoo as an adjunct to finasteride treatment could lead to a more complete inhibition of DHT and thus better treat AGA.

PMID: 14729013 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
March 04, 2001 - American Academy of Dermatology Meeting - Washington DC - Scientists working for McNeil, makers of Nizoral anti-dandruff shampoo, presented the findings of a study done on 1% Nizoral shampoo which has good news for hair loss sufferers. It has long been known that 2% prescription Nizoral has beneficial effects on Androgenic Alopecia (MPB). It however has been unclear whether the same benefits can be obtained by using the non-prescription 1% version.
In the study presented (see below), one hundred male volunteers with mild to moderate dandruff and somewhat oily scalp, were using, in a double-blind fashion, either a 1% Nizoral shampoo or a 1% zinc pyrithione shampoo, 2-3 times a week for 6 months.
Analysis of the different parameters set up in the study shows that the hair diameter gradually increased with Nizoral use (+8.46%) over a 6 month period, whereas the diameter showed a trend to decrease with zinc pyrithione use over the same period (-2.28%). The sebum excretion rate was reduced with Nizoral (-6.54%) while it increased with zinc pyrithione (+8.2%) over the same period of time. The number of hair shed over a 24-hour period was reduced by 16.46% with Nizoral and 6.02% with zinc pyrithione after 6 months. Finally, the percentage hairs in anagen phase increased by 6.4% and 8.4% respectively during the study time.

The results are similar to a previous study done on 2% prescription strength Nizoral where it was shown that use of 2% Nizoral yielded a 7% average increase in hair shaft diameter similar to what was achieved by the control group using 2% Minoxidil and a non-medicated shampoo.

So for any hair loss sufferer, this research clearly indicates that using 1% or 2% Nizoral 2-3 times per week, will have positive effects on hair growth as well as controlling dandruff. It is still unclear at this time whether it's the anti-fungal properties or the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole (active ingredient in Nizoral) thats responsible for the hair thickening effects, however because of the decrease in sebum rates as well, it is the authors opinion that the results are due to the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole.

Un abrazo!
Saludos !!!!

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Por jorgef  -  Cinturón Amarillo  - 130 Mensajes
#358596
y que uso entonces para DS ? si el ketoconzacol te hace caer el pelo ... no hay algo mas natural para que me cure la DS ?

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Por Nico  -  Cinturón Negro  - 39896 Mensajes
#358611
Hola como estas !

No tiene nada que ver que pueda hacerte caer algo de cabello, el ketoconzol 2% sirve y mucho para controlar la DS.

Saludos !

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Por jorgef  -  Cinturón Amarillo  - 130 Mensajes
#358619
Nico escribió:Hola como estas !

No tiene nada que ver que pueda hacerte caer algo de cabello, el ketoconzol 2% sirve y mucho para controlar la DS.

Saludos !

A ESTE POST IBA NICO ! viste a algunos les dio shedding o cosas asi ... capaz es por otra cosa y lo culpan al shampoo :S ..

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Por Agustino  -  Cinturón Amarillo  - 177 Mensajes
#374205
Pues en mi tratamiento de 1 año es en base a propecia y ketoconazol 2 x semana, este último 8 meses y noto caída cuando me ducho tanto con el keto como mi champú de diario, bastantes pelitos finos y delgados en mi mano, estoy suspendiendo el keto a día de hoy a ver si se reduce la pérdida.

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Por Juanquerendon001  -  Cinturón Blanco  - 1 Mensajes
#697035
Utilicé shampoo medicasp 2% porque desde hace un tiempo tenía mucha caspa, lo usé solamente por un mes, las cuatro demás recomendadas, y en estos momentos presentó una caída del pelo acelerada (nunca había tenido problemas de caída, me cabello era abundante) ahora mismo sólo ha pasado un mes y medio y he perdido al rededor de 40% . Mi pregunta es si mi cabello volverá a crecer de forma normal (nota: tengo caminos muy amplios)

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Por LordFran77  -  Cinturón Amarillo  - 68 Mensajes
#705032
¿Pero esto no iba bien para lo nuestro? pero si parece por los comentarios que hay más casos de caída que de beneficios... :shock:

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